Leo Trader Pro Launch Postponed To Monday 20th
Salve a tuti,
I’ve been contacted by the Leo Trader Pro team.
As I anticipated, the client EA is a “trade replicator”. It means that there’s a server streaming orders to all the clients. This is the best solution to have the neural network always fitted and trained.
Well, it seems that the number of people interested in the Leo Trader Pro is much greater than expected, and the actual “architecture” wouldn’t be able to host us all.
The team has decided to postpone the launch to Monday the 20th and setup a new server in the meanwhile.
Personally, I really appreciate their decision as this is a proof that they care for their clients and want to give us the best possible service.
That also means that we have to be a little more patient. But, I’m sure the Leo Trader will be worth the wait. 
P.S. Alessandro get same Valium in the meanwhile …just kidding! 
I have finished on the GJ trade!
Alessandro
congratulation for your victory against GJ. I was following your giving birth to these GJ trades.Happy for you.By the way you are a very good writer and i enjoy reading your posts.Alessandro keep the lights on for this blog.
Best Regards
Benhamida
WOW! thank you very much Benhamida! But I was referring to Valium
I mean I’ve finished it during the GJ so I’m not able to follow Andrea’s suggest 
By the way, only one trade is closed, the one of the second account is still missing because of the spread too high…MISSED TP FOR ONLY 3 DAMNED AND DIRTY POINTS!!! UACA!UACA!
What about you? weren’t you too short on GJ?
Cheers and cheers and cheers
Hi Alessandro
I was short 4 orders on GP since Dec 7th only yesterday closed in profit.worst week for me as far as income since started trading with Crescendo. After closing these orders I missed to shut down Crescendo so it hit me with one short trade at 130.105 on GP so i turned frequency to 6 and opened 2 buy orders on GP 30 pips apart and they were closed manually at 15 pips profit each.I did that because i was watching the HullMa indicator and i sow the trend is ending and reversing to buy. so i opened 2 buy orders and closed them in profit. I benefited from your idea of hedging. now i have only one open short order on GP ha i am nor worried about . Frequency is 6 until mid January.
Cheers.Alessandro Keep the lights on for Crescendo blog members.
Benhamida
Glad to have been helpfull to you
Ehi! Andrea, as I’m like a little guy when I see a nice toy I can’t wait to get it, and I saw a wonderfull toy above, what about it?
in this situations I forget any containment! HA!HA!
Andera, with taking signals from their sever won’t you have a bunch of latency?? from leotraderpro to client to broker to execute the order? so they send these signals world wide or this going to be broker specific? hummmm now more questions…and why did lot size go up and then back down…???
I don’t think there’ll be any latency.
I developed something similar in the past and for large numbers of client more sophisticated solutions are used like connection to MySQL server. The latency should be well below 1 sec.
About why lately the lot size is below what used to be in the last few weeks… well it’s quite easy to explain, because they want it to trade safer a less aggressive to avoid ruining what they’ve done since now. That’s my opinion
ANDREAA!!! I MADE A TERRIBLE MISTAKE!!
INSTEAD OF VALIUM I TOOK VIAGRA!
Alessandro – how you will have a nice time while the VIAGRA works!!!
yes Bjorn, but as for computer you need to be connected to a server, to get Viagra on work
it’s mandatory to be connected with a woman
thank you Andrea, one last thought…if this is a trade replicator then there should be no configuration parameters on the client side other than authorization etc……you will be trading what the software is sending correct? which is awesome that way you don’t have play with settings or buy expert guides…:) have a great holiday!!!
Ciao Andrea,
Regarding this new wonder EA called Leo Trader Pro. If I understand you correctly, this is a “trade replicator” as you call, a fancy term
for an advisory service, where everyone will be getting the exact same signal?. If this is the case, I wouldn’t waste my money on it. As soon as it becomes commercially available to the thousands of users, I am willing to bet that hardly anyone will even come close to their stellar track record, neural network or not. I would wait at least a month and see how the trading community is faring with it, before even considering its purchase. I am already sick and tired with all the affiliate links promoting it as the 9th wonder of the world! If it sounds too good to be true……
Keep us posted. Fai un buon fine di settimana.
I have to admit, I already fell prey to this replicator type EA. It was called Forex Samurai. Paid $500.00 bucks. The web,afiliates, and review sites said it was a professional trader that it replicated their trades on your account with lot size adjusted by you. I ran it on my live micro account for about 30 days and it was like watching a chimp trade my account. I was loseing money slower with my manual trades. I discontinued use, and received no refund. This was about 6 months ago. There is currently no support and I would not dare place it back on a live account. Feel free to google it. The review sites are still up as they are just afiliate link sites in disguise. The ones that have user review postings tell the truth about this forex wonder. I am perfectly Happy now that I have finaly found an EA that I understand and makes sense. As well as has an author that is still standing by and updating as time goes by…. this is what I have been looking for all along. I will now stop throwing money at every new thing that bombards my email account and use the money instead to increase my trading capitol. If the EA is good I am sure Andrea will let us know…. I for one will wait for the hype to end.
Ehi steve!
Leo has gone….rest in peace
Amen
The pip count for Leo for December to date is approximately 280 pips.
I have traded Crescendo manually for the past 3 days on GBPUSD from 06H00-17H00 GMT with settings as follows: 30M trend and 240M trend on a 15M chart. I used 2 accounts , one for buy and one for sell.
240M settings 160 20 5 on 15M
30M settings 20 5 on 15M
TP 20 pips SL 300 as an emergency
I have a closed pip count of 320 pips.
Floating loss -17
I will set up 4 Crescendo EA`s to trade 2 “buy” accounts and 2 “sell” accounts and see whether it will take the same trades as per manual signals.
Why do I need to buy something that I have no insight into?
I have to depend on an outside “force” to do the calculation for me?
It is like riding as a passenger on the back of a motorcycle, you never know which way the driver will go!
I will stand aside with my hands in my pockets until the hype has died down and it is time for Leo to stand up and deliver.
In the meantime , I am doing well with my manual trading and will experiment some more with Crescendo to explore other possibilities.
PS: I will try to post the charts with the trades on..I just need to figure out how.
Regards,
A
Hi Arnold,
I don’t understand when you say that:
I have traded Crescendo manually for the past 3 days…
Would you explain how do you do that “manually”.
Thanks
Since Leo’s release has been announced this blog is like a meeting of Italian politics…
I would have to agree…with Steve I would not use a real money account for a month or two…I am skeptical as well on wether they beable to keep their stellar results..time will tell…I hate the marketing hype..!!! I got an email this morning that said there were on 3 copies left…LOL..
Edwin
It is only one copy left now. the other two, I bought one and Alessandro bought the other.LOL.
Benhamida
if it walks like a Duck and talks like a Duck its a Leo.
Benhamida
240M settings 160 20 5 on 15M
30M settings 20 5 on 15M
What do these settings mean ?
Hi Arnold
Nicely thought-out, but I too am confused by your settings.
Regards
I want to use a shorter TF eg 15M for better timed entries rather than 240M because by the time the 240M period candle/bar has closed , the move could be exhausted or busy retracing.
So..instead of using a 240M with setting 10 , I use 15M with setting 160. The entry will be a lot more accurate because it will “signal” where the trend changed rather than wait for the close of the 240M candle for a confirmed signal.
The idea is to trade using the 240M as the main trend indicator.
However…in order to manage the risk of retracements/reversals I want to trade a shorter TF eg 30M as well. By using a separate account/s for buy and sell , it will effectively “hedge” losing positions on the longer TF (240M) by taking trades on the shorter 30M TF.
For example….if I am long on GBPUSD on 240M , a retracement can signal a short trade on 30M , if I take the trade and make 20 pips , I am effectively hedging/subsidizing the potential loss on the long position on 240M.
I need to test this properly over a longer period of time but a crazy idea may just work if I can use Crescendo or different ones to trade it.
I have made a large number of pips just trading this manually for 3 days…manually means using the Crescendo indicator and taking trades manually.
Hi Arnold
Yes, I understand your approach. It’s the mechanics which aren’t quite clear for me.
When you speak about Settings, are you talking about the HullMA, or Andrea’s new “Crescendo MTF Trend” indicator, or something else?
In other words, exactly where do you go to make the Settings in the first place?
Sorry for my stupidity, I’m just a trading newbie…
Regards
Hi David,
No , you are not stupid , I should have explained it better. I have not used the EA yet, I am trading it manually first because I need to see it on the charts first…
You can use Crescendo MTF or 3 separate Hull indicators for 240M trend with settings 160 20 5 on 15M. I look for all 3 to line up for long or short.
If you want to use a separate chart for 30M trend , use 2 indicators (Hull) with settings 20 5 to give you 30M trend.
I took 2 trades on GBP today , both short for 20 pips each..both winners.
I want to test this with the EA now, let me experiment to see whether it has merit and I will post the results under ” Best settings” or ” Melting Pot” in order to keep the discussion focussed on Leo in this section.
I am buying Leo trader as soon as it comes out and i will use it to my Live account. The same as i did with crescendo . i am dealing with a very smart guy his name is Andrea Salvatori he is a man of honor.if he said he checked Leo Trader and said I am an affiliat i will buy it.
Cheers
Benhamida
Perhaps for someone 2 great EAs together are too much to bear. Too big emotions!
My dear Benhamida, about my idea (hedging…) you can also try with Ichimoku, it’s a great system, just a little complicated to understand but only at the begining and it’s very powerfull; as it’s based on price action it hase many verges with Crescendo.
Have to wait till monday! I’m not able to do that…….PUMP UP THE VALIUM!!
Alessandro
I dabbled with Ichimoku few times and read about it but i found it as you said complicated. For help i use Fibonacci and Hull Ma and another indicator for Divergence( FX 5 Divergence) I picked up from MT4 Library simple EA.Hull Ma 4 Oslo I picked up from MT4 Library I downloaded it on crescendo chart to keep an eye on the trend in three time frames 30 minutes H1, H4.The Hull Ma helps me to decide whether to trade the Divergence or not,to avoid trading a Divergence against the trend. your Hedging idea goes well with Fibonacci.
Thank you for your support.
Benhamida
Well, was the same for me with Ichimoku, then I found the right manual and ….voilà! so easy, so clear, so natural and so surprising. Anyway everyone has to choose his own way.
I found that in trading there is nothing absolutely right or absolutely wrong, there is only the way you feel better with.
Cheers
Ciao Alessandro,
can you please tell me which manual you found useful regarding Ichimoku? I’m pretty interested in this technique. Lately I found this article in the MQL5 community for automating a strategy based on Ichimoku: http://articles.mql4.com/518. Cheers
ItchyMoku!? What’s that?
Thought it was Japanese for itchy bits.
Hi Andrea
I am one of those who dislikes upsells with a passion as the picture painted is usually based on ALL componants but then the product is promoted as being only $xxx which is the cost of just the first componanat. You are never told how many upsells there are going to be and what the cost of each one is and so have no way of knowing what your final cost will be. In your mind you have gone into the purchase having decided if this is within your budget or not based on the initial price. In a shop you go and see what you are buying and can see all the options and make informed deecisions on your purchase. I’ve got tired of making purchases online and then going back and asking for a refund becasue I could not see and assess upfront what I was buying.
So, with that in mind and you already knowing exaclty what is being sold i.e. all the componants of Leo, would you be so kind as to give us an assessment of each componant and it’s importance/relevance to the overall performance of Leo.
I understand you may not be able to do this before its release but would love to see your comments immediately on release.
I do honour and salute you for your openess and willingness to share your thoughts, research, expertise and so much more with us. It is so great to feel a part of this community and learn from everyone’s postings. It is the first time I have felt comfortable with an EA and my v.1.2 is chugging along nicely with the v 1.3 being a lot slower but then I need to get back and understand that one better. To have a community like this is so much better than the situation of all other EAs, courses, systems, etc where it is “just me and support”.
So, again, Andrea, thank you for giving us your time, expertise and patience.
Judy
Hi Judy
How do we pay Andrea back, Beside thank you Andrea?
Cheers
Benhamida
Hi Benhamida
I think there are two ways.
1. Pay him back by participating.
This is not a monetary way and I don’t know how Andrea feels but I personally would feel real satisfaction in having created an organisation where I could help people and people actually got engaged with me and together we were able to help each other and come up with something better. In life I have found that as soon as I start to look for money to be my reward I loose an edge! Alongside that I also believe that a “man is worth his hire” and we should never take another’s generosity for granted or not be prepared to pay him his rightful dues, but this is where I think the second one comes into play.
2. Pay him back by purchasing any of his future products.
Through the “journey” we have come so far with Andrea we have built up a huge confidence in him, his knowledge and his abilities so that when he has other products of his own to sell we will have no hesitation in purchasing from him when we see that product fits into our own style, personality and budget.
These two ways can build and compound on themselves. I am not into affiliate marketing myself but won’t hesitate to tell someone about Andrea and his product/s as I have grown to admire him and his work so much. So I will market for him by word of mouth. (That way he also doesn’t have to give me a commission…I am sure he can provide us with a link that does not go to an affiliate but straight to him.)
These are just my thoughts
Thank you Judy you are very thoughtful. I will buy any product Andrea is affiliated with put it on a Demo, if it worked it is fine and dandy if it didn’t i can ask for money back or maybe i don’t. many of us here are looking for Automated or semi-automated portfolio. If I lost some money in the process no big deal . It’s very rear to find something like what we have here.
Cheers
Benhamida
Thanks a lot.
Yes I really like the way the Crescendinos community is growing and it’s becoming more and more “professional”.
Most of the discussions are really interesting and inspiring. I’m having very good ideas from your discussions.
That’s surely a surprise for me. When I started the blog I had no idea that it could be that way
I’m working on Crescendo improvement and on new things as well as that usually takes months to have something really worth trading (at least for me).
So Crescendo is just the start
Thanks again!
Leo is to be sold through Clickbank, I believe. If so, a 60 day refund period will apply. In that circumstance, it at least deserves a demo account trial to see if the 5 month profit factor can be continued with so many traders trading the same signals !!
What’s all this nonsense about a free version of Leo? They sent me a link but I’m reluctant to use it.
“Lee Campbell here from the Forex Mutant team… I just came
across this site where you can download a FREE copy of the
infamous “Leo Trader Pro” super robot — go try it out
before anybody else and without risking a penny”
Ciao Judy, I think you’re just right.
for his great work.
.
On my own the confidence of a person is the greatest gift you could receive but you have to achieve it and conserve it day by day.
I want to tell Andrea, and you all, what I think, wishing he understand that is not a censure but a gift and a thanks giving
All this mess with Leo is the result of a wrong promotion.
I can understand those who are enmeshed by that.
Sometimes it’s not so easy to look beyond, anyway I can do it. As patience is not one of my virtues, intuition it is
So I pursue to trust in you Andrea and, as you know well, this is the big bet on my future, therefore this should be a great value for you and a guarantee for all Crescendinos.
This is my gift, treat it well!
HAPPY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY NEW YEAR AND HAPPY NEW DEAL TO EVERYONE IN THIS BLOG!!
Alessandro
Bravo, Alessandro!
Many thanks, too, for your comments on hedging. They helped me a lot.
Warmest Season’s Greetings to you, Andrea, and all you Crescendino’s.
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By the way, when is your next rant due? I want to be sure to be here for it. (Ha!)
I red those two manuals:
http://www.amazon.com/Trading-Ichimoku-Clouds-Essential-Technical/dp/0470609931/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1292579361&sr=8-1
and
http://www.amazon.com/Trading-Clouds-Stocks-Ichimoku-ebook/dp/B00295QSF0/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1292579361&sr=8-4
both good.
But I also learned a lot about reading charts with Ichimoku from:
http://www.ichi360.com/
I’m sure you’ll love it.
Thanks a lot for your quick and kind reply.
Ciao,
Paolo
WAAAAHOOO!!!!! I’VE GOT THE TARGET!!!! PUMP UP THE VALIUM!!!!
Give me a little time Paolo, I was just celebrating GJ target!
Here I’m Paolo,
I think we are similar, patience is not on our virtues…I’m just kidding!
So I know Ichi360, it’s very good but not complete; it doesn’t tell you about stop losses and exiting rules.
Anyway my manual is a part of a trading system I’ve bought time ago. It’a a PDF format so if you give me your email or a Skype address I’ll be glad to share it with you and everyone else.
Cheers
Don’t worry, it’s free!
Is it??
Ichimoku Kinko Hyo, Mort, it’s impossible you do not know it
my businesses
Hey Andrea,
So this Leo trader has your endorsement. Im a little concerned to tell you the truth mate. Over 100% profit with 1% drawdown each month?!?!? Thats absurd. And these results come from a no-name broker which has been operating for less than 1 year. Why the heck would a salesperson want to use a no-name broker? That doesn’t help sell the product. There is obviously a reason for it and the answer is probably somewhere between dodgy and shonky!
Your thoughts?
Cheers,
Allan
I just bought Leo protrader and have set it up on my VPS( my 4th EA). Looks good, But I havnt had any trades yet on my account. When the demo leo pro account trades, I should have a trade also, but I havent yet. Still working on making sure my setting are correct. The problem is that you have to wait for a signal to see if its trading , even if the smiley face and all color indicators are running. Any one else buyed this also?
Garry in Kaui Hawaii
Lots of us have bought it Garry ~ and wer’re waiting to see if it produces “the goods”. Things don’t look too bright at the moment – but we’ll give it a try….or go for the refund via clickbank. Just be careful with your trading level if you’re “live” and using real money.
I hope (as a lot of us do) that Leo will be successful.
But be careful
Best Wishes
Henry