Just curious. Now that the live account is worth roughly $20,000, shouldn’t the lot size be increased to 0.2? Or will you keep lot size on live account @ 0.1 no matter how much the account grows?
At $20,000 and 0.1 lot haven’t you, in effect, you cut the risk/reward in half? As an account grows, should we be increasing the lot size proprotionately or let it remain at its initial value?
With Regards to my post on the Chatting section Dated November 25th, 2010 8:21am
I am really getting nervous further more , when i see that your Live Account EA is taking exactly Opposite trades than mine.? I have 6 g/u Buy trades open where as your Crescendo has been selling it.? The Temp DD is now around 20%. And i am really worried. Just trying to analyze what i have done wrong.? Please, Any Help.? Do you need any further info from my side.? I am sure that Cres is one if the good EA’s, but some thing is going wrong with my account.
Below is the one from the Live Statement of yours.
11.24.2010 12:00 GBPUSD Sell 0.10 1.57622 - Open Orders
11.08.2010 00:01 11.08.2010 02:42 GBPUSD Sell - Closed Order
11.08.2010 12:00 11.09.2010 01:04 GBPUSD Sell - Closed Order
11.19.2010 00:00 11.19.2010 15:56 GBPUSD Sell - Closed Order
11.17.2010 00:00 11.19.2010 15:57 GBPUSD Sell - Closed Order
11.17.2010 00:00 11.19.2010 15:57 GBPUSD Sell - Closed Order
11.22.2010 00:00 11.22.2010 14:19 GBPUSD Sell - Closed Order
11.23.2010 00:00 11.23.2010 07:28 GBPUSD Sell - Closed Order
11.23.2010 12:00 11.23.2010 15:47 GBPUSD Sell - Closed Order
11.24.2010 00:00 11.24.2010 11:40 GBPUSD Sell - Closed Order
Below is mine All open orders with Huge Temporary DD.
To add some info to it, am using v1.3. The EA has not been taking trade since last few days i guess because as i had set the time frame to Auto instead of default 4(=12Hrs) in the inputs tab. Also, should i set the Close on Counter trend to True.? Started with $3000, so Fixed Lot size = 0.03
Current Scenario, i am at Floating Loss of near arround -1950 Pips / -570 $ USD.
Should i close all the trades, as it has been trading against your Live account.?
What happens to the EA if I manually close the trades of the EA? It took 4 consecutive long trades and even when the market brokebroke a new low today it did not autoclose the trades after 278 pips. The trend score shows -3 which I would have thought would make the EA realize that the trend was a strong short and time to pull the plug!
Considering the GMT Shift, I can not understand why the trades in your statement keep opening at the same Alpari time (12 & 0), if in March and October Alpari changes the plataform time compared with gmt from +1 to +2.
Dukascopy data are perfect for that as well as they are based on GMT time so that when I test the “shifted” entries they are really referred to GMT time. I think you still don’t get that the GMT_shift is no telling the EA at which GMT_shift is the broker BUT it tell the EA which “midnight” it has to use as a referral.
you are right, I did not get well the concept of GMT_shift…
For example when I run a backtest of GBPUSD using Dukascopy data what should I use in this parameter? Zero since is the data is GMT or -1 as your recommend of live trading?
Can you please give some examples…
What do you mean Andrea? Should I use GMT_Shift 7 or -7 instead of -1 as your best setting recommendation?
Again, please post your backtesting results (html file) using the recommendated settings so I can evaluate how your DD was lower and what time and price the orders were opened.
Ok Andrea, but please attach you backtest *.html file, since I would like to see how your got much lower DD, maybe I’m doing something wrong and since backtesting with TickData is so time consuming you can help a lot.
Looking forward to see/receive the file.
Thanks
After some analysis I noticed that the MTF trend score is not been calculated correctly on the backtesting for the 5 timeframes. I have tried many things, but it seems MT4 do not support this kind of calculation on 5 times frames, mainly Weekly and Montlhy.
One idea would be to use only one time frame, for example 60 minutes, and play with the periods in order to have the MTF for the 5 time frames. Since I do not know what kind of calculations do you use in this indicator, I would like to ask your help and input of which periods should I use to get the correctly MTF for each time frame.
If we were talking about a simple moving average, I would use the following settings on the parameters:
I passed a long time comparing the scores of each time frame when we run a back testing and they are totally different from the score of live trading, it seems that MT4 do not support this kind of calculation on a backtesting.
If you notided it is not posible to run a backtesting using the timeframe: Weekly and Monthly, MT4 just allow until Daily…
- First of all I generated a FXT file for each time frame, since is the kind of file I use to run backtesting by every tick using dukascopy data. Obviously I also generated all time frames Hst files.
Below you will can find the comments of Birt, who has a blog to teach how to used Dukascopy data:
“MT4 lets you check any timeframe you want during the backtesting, both when specifying the indicator timeframe as well as via iOpen, iHigh etc. Of course, this works as long as you have the history file for the specific timeframe you’re trying to access.
You might be experiencing one of the following:
- you did not copy the HST files generated by the script, thus the indicator is using the history center data which probably has a different GMT offset, thus inducing an offset of several hours in all indicator results.
- your indicator frame of reference has a different GMT offset, which will naturally yield different H4 and D1 bars, resulting in different indicator results”
- Since the method above did not worked, I used the method below you post here in your blog:
I have been trading LIVE for 10-11 weeks now and the equity curve has been very good. I started with the standard settings on v1.2 for a $1,000.00 account.
I installed v1.3 and changed the entry times while it was still trading a DD. I am not sure if that was a good idea.
It is up 26.4% based on $1k account. I started the account with $1,200 in it and I have had $15,000 go into the account incorrectly so it was transferred out very quickly. This does affect how MYFXBOOK reports my profit %.
I am prepared for fellow Crescendo Bloggers to take a look via FXBOOK http://www.myfxbook.com/members/ganglesey/julie509522/68169/PQ2ECgxNaHRD6TUTE9hY I hope this helps others see the potential of Crescendo.
Happy trading
Garry
PS: Julie is my wife and she has a lower tax rate than I do. That is why I have traded it in her name. I know it will make money and in Australia we have to pay tax on the profit.
I have been running the Crecsendo since beginning of OCTOBER, I have used the default settings as in the instructions, The account is at the moment -12% under the starting balance,. I am not getting the results of the live account nor the results of others that are also showing profits, Can Andrea or anyone tell me why the profit after appx 3 months is a negative one ???
1.3 closed 2 bad trades tonight.GBP/JPY of 12/31 and 01/04/11 for a total loss of $1717. exit on counter trend set to true. This sets my account at a negative that started trading on 11/30/2010. The sad part is…these 2 losses are the only losses over that period of time.
Hi Andrea I still am unable to understand why I am not getting the results as published for the last 3 months of appx 40% increase on the account.’
I opened my account on 11 Oct. I have the account set up with all of the recommended settings etc, to date it has had 5 max DDs and the account is appx MINUS (-) 40% of original balance.
these results certainly do not match the live account !!!! Andreas can you or anyone tellme why ????
I have purchased Crescendo almost 2 months ago and I did not go live yet because I was not able to replicate the amazing backtesting results of Andrea using Dukascopy data with 99% modeling quality.
I’m still waiting Andrea to publish those backtesting statements to compare the results, but I’m still waiting…
if I can not have at least nice results on my backtesting with tick data and will not go live.
Andrea, can you please post you backtesting results of V1.3?
I can see you have a few of the large drawdown trades open on your live account, that I have. What is your exit strategy for these, or do we just leave them going?
Hi Anreas My account has now gone further into the red since the entry above this one written on January 5th, the balance now stands at MINUS -56% and has had a further 2 Max DD’s that makes 6 max dd’s for so far.
I have written to you Andreas, support at Crescendo and also Mark McRea to see if there is anyone out there that might have some advice as to why I am not seeing the results like the live account , without any replies or acknowledgements regarding my messages etc. from anyone,
As my account is set up using the recommended inputs etc I have to conclude that this is going the way of other EA’s , down the drain !!!
An acknowledgement of this message and an answer would be appreciated .
Hi Andrea, just looking at the live statement above it says no open orders but the botoom part of the statement lists 4 or 5 ? open positions- all in loss at present- thesepositions are still open on my account- is this correct or should they be closed ? – in particular short trade gbpjpy sold at 125.749 still open with loss of 400 pips- should forex crescendo have closed these losing trades ? Please advise.
Regards, James Chenoweth.
Hi James,
the positions will be all closed when the total value of them will be the target_profit value. This is the strategy.
In my live account I have 5 short GBPJPY positions and I’ll let them do their job In the meantime GBPUSD did 2.5% from the beginning of the year… not much but the first half of January is usually quite flat.
30% of my live account has just been destroyed by Crescendo, thanks in part to the CPI news. In 8 years of trading, I’ve never lost anything like that.
All standard settings, very low lot size, 1% risk, v1.3 (with close-on-counter set to false, since that wiped out a big chunk when I first upgraded from 1.0 to 1.3).
Andrea, I sent you an email about the big drawdown last week.
All short trades from late December on both pairs.
My three month trial has proved to be very expensive, that Leo rubbish didn’t help either.
Not at all impressed It started off quite well with version 1.
more than to CPI news, this is due to the trades opened during the holiday period. That’s why I strongly suggested to stop trading for one month, from mid December to mid January.
This is true for Crescendo but for many EAs and it’s true in general for trading. The same applies to August.
Thanks for the reply Andrea. I seem to recall you said you’d be leaving the EA to run, on your live account, with close-on-trend off, over the holiday period – so I simply did same. The EA was profitable with closed trades just after Christmas.
I understand the potential volatility due to low volumes, but all we saw was a a relatively tight range on cable, until break-out on the 12th. The price action that we’ve seen over the last couple of weeks isn’t that much different to what we saw in September.
Crescendo is now switched off while my trading account goes back to manual for recovery.
What do I do next? v1.4 or no more EA trading? Decisions, decisions, but I am very much disinclined to let any EA trade my account again.
I let it run but for two reasons: first because I never stopped it running (not even in August) and I won’t ever stop it until I decide to close it. That’s because it’s the OFFICIAL live account
Second, my margin is much larger than the average Crescendo account, so I can stand very large DD without difficulties. Actually a 3K DD is less than 14% of my equity.
The problem is not volatility… the problem is that with low volumes you can have trends without any retracement for weeks and that is what can kill any strategy.
Can’t help you with your decision. It depends on you.
30% DD is 30% DD regardless of the balance of the account. The pitch for v1 suggested the 30% was a safety net which the EA had never come close to hitting. When v1.3 was released you stated: “…the maximum draw down from open orders has been 8.75%… far away from our initial 30% safety net.”
I think you’re a good bloke, Andrea, and mean not to disparage you or your good work. However, whichever way you look at it, Crescendo has failed, for me and others it would seem; (in my 3 months of testing) it hasn’t come close to living up to the performance figures suggested in the promotional material. I don’t see that low volume trends had anything to do with it – we were range-bound; the high-volume breakout that ensued is what seemed to kill us.
Had I switched the EA off before Christmas I would have had opened trades that I’d either have had to close (at a loss) manually, or leave to (likely) eventually close at a loss when the EA resumed.
There is clearly some potential in the EA and I’m loathed to give up on it or you. Some positive input on improvements, that could be made to avoid such DD in future versions, would be more welcome than suggestions of post-Christmas irrational price action that caused the EA not work properly.
Today my account imploaded with a huge loss. And it doesn’t sound like it’s only me….
Steve :
Thanks for the reply Andrea. I seem to recall you said you’d be leaving the EA to run, on your live account, with close-on-trend off, over the holiday period – so I simply did same. The EA was profitable with closed trades just after Christmas.
I understand the potential volatility due to low volumes, but all we saw was a a relatively tight range on cable, until break-out on the 12th. The price action that we’ve seen over the last couple of weeks isn’t that much different to what we saw in September.
Crescendo is now switched off while my trading account goes back to manual for recovery.
What do I do next? v1.4 or no more EA trading? Decisions, decisions, but I am very much disinclined to let any EA trade my account again.
I am finding it impossible to do any long range testing and reach a decision to go live due to the rapid updates and getting some of the versions to perform. An answer to a few questions would be helpful.
1. Are the new versions applied to your live account..If so when?..If not why? In other words how was that performance achieved?
2, What criteria would you use to evaluate demo results and decide to go live?
3. If new versions have not been applied to the live account is the live version available to us? My objective is to make money not spend my time testing new versions.
I always use the latest version on my personal live account.
But I’m about to start a new live account for version 1.4 also.
I usually don’t use demo account as I prefer to have a small live account with very low lots. So I usually skip the demo phase but that is because I trust my things
As soon as I’ll have version 1.4 applied to a live account by itself I’ll send a link to everyone so you can follow its performances and decide if it’s the case to switch to the new version or not.
For the benefit of all of those who are suffering a big draw down, do you have some advice to speed up the closing of basket of trades.
My GJ basket of trades started at 04/01/11, with currently 6 trades open. Break even point at 129.474. For GU I have 8 trades open, with break even at 1.58389. The problem is that I don’t see GJ or GU coming down to break even point in the short term. All this time Crescendo is in limbo — as we can’t close out any trades.
Is it a good idea to manually open a short at a local maximum, with say 4 times the normal lot size, in order to bring the break even point up? Or do you see another way of getting out?
Not we didn’t. It’s Alpari UK that “converted” our profits into deposits cutting history before June 29th 2010… don’t know why sincerely. Waiting for an answer from them!
I’m very very disappointed about that.
Japan falls apart and gets washed away and yet the currency strengthens against the GBP.
The live account opened a trade on 28 Dec 2010 finally closed all 11 trades to make a profit, albeit only $40.00. That is a lot better than giving the market over $6K that it was in draw down at one stage.
My own account has been teasing me for weeks now. I know Andrea says to be patient. As with my previous post the DD of 30% is not quite enough in the beginning. 60% might be the better option.
I don’t think I will ever understand why the market moves the way it does but Crescendo appears too.
Trust in Crescendo with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.
Same experience with me, closed 11 trades with small profit (including swaps). I agree with your 60% but I could manage because I use hedging and opened and closed buy trades in profit the last 70 days.
But the best things would have been to not trade during that periods. That way the 30% DD should be enough.
The new version will cover that by stopping trading during low volumes periods (August and mid-Dec to mid-Jan). Unfortunately those periods are crazy and can create problems lasting “months”.
If you can… hedging is another nice solution Well done FrankB.
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Andrea,
Just curious. Now that the live account is worth roughly $20,000, shouldn’t the lot size be increased to 0.2? Or will you keep lot size on live account @ 0.1 no matter how much the account grows?
At $20,000 and 0.1 lot haven’t you, in effect, you cut the risk/reward in half? As an account grows, should we be increasing the lot size proprotionately or let it remain at its initial value?
Many thanks,
JGH
Hi Andrea,
Any luck yet setting up new live V. 1.3 myfxbooks acct? Thank-you Andrea.
Hello Andrea,
With Regards to my post on the Chatting section Dated November 25th, 2010 8:21am
I am really getting nervous further more , when i see that your Live Account EA is taking exactly Opposite trades than mine.?
I have 6 g/u Buy trades open where as your Crescendo has been selling it.? The Temp DD is now around 20%. And i am really worried. Just trying to analyze what i have done wrong.? Please, Any Help.? Do you need any further info from my side.? I am sure that Cres is one if the good EA’s, but some thing is going wrong with my account.
Below is the one from the Live Statement of yours.
11.24.2010 12:00 GBPUSD Sell 0.10 1.57622 - Open Orders
11.08.2010 00:01 11.08.2010 02:42 GBPUSD Sell - Closed Order
11.08.2010 12:00 11.09.2010 01:04 GBPUSD Sell - Closed Order
11.19.2010 00:00 11.19.2010 15:56 GBPUSD Sell - Closed Order
11.17.2010 00:00 11.19.2010 15:57 GBPUSD Sell - Closed Order
11.17.2010 00:00 11.19.2010 15:57 GBPUSD Sell - Closed Order
11.22.2010 00:00 11.22.2010 14:19 GBPUSD Sell - Closed Order
11.23.2010 00:00 11.23.2010 07:28 GBPUSD Sell - Closed Order
11.23.2010 12:00 11.23.2010 15:47 GBPUSD Sell - Closed Order
11.24.2010 00:00 11.24.2010 11:40 GBPUSD Sell - Closed Order
Below is mine All open orders with Huge Temporary DD.
Ticket Open Time Type Size Item Price S / L T / P Price Comm Taxes Swap Profit
14552583 2010.11.05 00:00 BUY 0.03 gbpusd 1.6277 0.0000 0.0000 1.5746 -0.30 0.00 0.00 -159.30
14555889 2010.11.08 00:00 BUY 0.03 gbpusd 1.6205 0.0000 0.0000 1.5746 -0.30 0.00 0.00 -137.70
14604096 2010.11.19 00:00 BUY 0.03 gbpusd 1.6052 0.0000 0.0000 1.5746 -0.30 0.00 0.00 -91.80
14608219 2010.11.22 12:03 BUY 0.03 gbpusd 1.5993 0.0000 0.0000 1.5746 -0.30 0.00 0.00 -74.10
14613110 2010.11.23 12:00 BUY 0.03 gbpusd 1.5934 0.0000 0.0000 1.5746 -0.30 0.00 0.00 -56.40
14614137 2010.11.23 18:00 BUY 0.03 gbpusd 1.5811 0.0000 0.0000 1.5746 -0.30 0.00 0.00 -19.50
To add some info to it, am using v1.3. The EA has not been taking trade since last few days i guess because as i had set the time frame to Auto instead of default 4(=12Hrs) in the inputs tab. Also, should i set the Close on Counter trend to True.? Started with $3000, so Fixed Lot size = 0.03
Current Scenario, i am at Floating Loss of near arround -1950 Pips / -570 $ USD.
Should i close all the trades, as it has been trading against your Live account.?
What happens to the EA if I manually close the trades of the EA? It took 4 consecutive long trades and even when the market brokebroke a new low today it did not autoclose the trades after 278 pips. The trend score shows -3 which I would have thought would make the EA realize that the trend was a strong short and time to pull the plug!
My account was $2000 but my lot sizes have to be .05 from my broker what setting does the EA consider for risk management?
Hi Andrea,
Considering the GMT Shift, I can not understand why the trades in your statement keep opening at the same Alpari time (12 & 0), if in March and October Alpari changes the plataform time compared with gmt from +1 to +2.
Thanks
Because I decided to leave settings untouched and that means that I’ll always be trading at Alpari UK server midnight at noon.
But how do you backtest if Dukascopy data is = GMT? What GMT shift do you use when you backtest using tick data from dukascopy?
Dukascopy data are perfect for that as well as they are based on GMT time so that when I test the “shifted” entries they are really referred to GMT time. I think you still don’t get that the GMT_shift is no telling the EA at which GMT_shift is the broker BUT it tell the EA which “midnight” it has to use as a referral.
you are right, I did not get well the concept of GMT_shift…
For example when I run a backtest of GBPUSD using Dukascopy data what should I use in this parameter? Zero since is the data is GMT or -1 as your recommend of live trading?
Can you please give some examples…
After optimization using dukascopy data on GBPUSD the only GMT_shift that had a DD lower than 30% on 2010 data was:
7, -5, 4, -4, 8 and -8
7 and -5 got a DD of around 12%
Good! Use those settings then
Hi Andrea,
Can you help please..
What do you mean Andrea? Should I use GMT_Shift 7 or -7 instead of -1 as your best setting recommendation?
Again, please post your backtesting results (html file) using the recommendated settings so I can evaluate how your DD was lower and what time and price the orders were opened.
Thanks
One of the best things with version 1.3 is that you can do your own backtests and optimizations without problems
Ok Andrea, but please attach you backtest *.html file, since I would like to see how your got much lower DD, maybe I’m doing something wrong and since backtesting with TickData is so time consuming you can help a lot.
Looking forward to see/receive the file.
Thanks
Hi Andrea,
Please post your v1.3 backtest html file based on dukscopy data or send to my e-mail. I really need this info…
thanks in advance
I’ll do as soon as I can.
Thanks for your patience.
Hi Andrea,
After some analysis I noticed that the MTF trend score is not been calculated correctly on the backtesting for the 5 timeframes. I have tried many things, but it seems MT4 do not support this kind of calculation on 5 times frames, mainly Weekly and Montlhy.
One idea would be to use only one time frame, for example 60 minutes, and play with the periods in order to have the MTF for the 5 time frames. Since I do not know what kind of calculations do you use in this indicator, I would like to ask your help and input of which periods should I use to get the correctly MTF for each time frame.
If we were talking about a simple moving average, I would use the following settings on the parameters:
timeframe_1: 60 – SMAperiod_1: 10
timeframe_2: 60 – SMAperiod_2: 40
timeframe_3: 60 – SMAperiod_3: 240
timeframe_4: 60 – SMAperiod_4: 1200
timeframe_5: 60 – SMAperiod_4: 7200
that would be same of:
timeframe_1: 60 – SMAperiod_1: 10
timeframe_2: 240 – SMAperiod_2: 10
timeframe_3: 1440 – SMAperiod_3: 10
timeframe_4: 10080 – SMAperiod_4: 10
timeframe_5: 43200 – SMAperiod_4: 10
I’m looking forward to receive your comments.
Thanks and best regards,
Good idea and it’s the direction I’m working on about the improvement of the MTF trend indicator.
Thanks Andrea, but you were able to backtest Crescendo V 1.3 using the MTF trend in the 5 time frames?
I’m stuck in this point… Please guide me…
Download the data of all the 5 timeframes before backtesting it.
I passed a long time comparing the scores of each time frame when we run a back testing and they are totally different from the score of live trading, it seems that MT4 do not support this kind of calculation on a backtesting.
If you notided it is not posible to run a backtesting using the timeframe: Weekly and Monthly, MT4 just allow until Daily…
Even if you download historical data of the 5 timeframes before starting the backtest?
I have tried two things:
- First of all I generated a FXT file for each time frame, since is the kind of file I use to run backtesting by every tick using dukascopy data. Obviously I also generated all time frames Hst files.
Below you will can find the comments of Birt, who has a blog to teach how to used Dukascopy data:
“MT4 lets you check any timeframe you want during the backtesting, both when specifying the indicator timeframe as well as via iOpen, iHigh etc. Of course, this works as long as you have the history file for the specific timeframe you’re trying to access.
You might be experiencing one of the following:
- you did not copy the HST files generated by the script, thus the indicator is using the history center data which probably has a different GMT offset, thus inducing an offset of several hours in all indicator results.
- your indicator frame of reference has a different GMT offset, which will naturally yield different H4 and D1 bars, resulting in different indicator results”
- Since the method above did not worked, I used the method below you post here in your blog:
http://investpress.com/downloading-importing-and-converting-1-minute-data-for-use-with-the-mt4-platform
Andrea, please make a test and let me know if the MTF scores of your backtesting is equal to the one your have in your live trading plataform?
Thanks
I’ll do that in the next few days.
Thanks for testing that.
Keep you updated on that.
I have been trading LIVE for 10-11 weeks now and the equity curve has been very good. I started with the standard settings on v1.2 for a $1,000.00 account.
I installed v1.3 and changed the entry times while it was still trading a DD. I am not sure if that was a good idea.
It is up 26.4% based on $1k account. I started the account with $1,200 in it and I have had $15,000 go into the account incorrectly so it was transferred out very quickly. This does affect how MYFXBOOK reports my profit %.
I am prepared for fellow Crescendo Bloggers to take a look via FXBOOK http://www.myfxbook.com/members/ganglesey/julie509522/68169/PQ2ECgxNaHRD6TUTE9hY I hope this helps others see the potential of Crescendo.
Happy trading
Garry
PS: Julie is my wife and she has a lower tax rate than I do. That is why I have traded it in her name. I know it will make money and in Australia we have to pay tax on the profit.
very very good!
welcome!
I have been running the Crecsendo since beginning of OCTOBER, I have used the default settings as in the instructions, The account is at the moment -12% under the starting balance,. I am not getting the results of the live account nor the results of others that are also showing profits, Can Andrea or anyone tell me why the profit after appx 3 months is a negative one ???
Hi Andre,
I would like to know, wicht version do you use for those live result ? 1.2 or 1.3 ?
Thank you very much
1.3 closed 2 bad trades tonight.GBP/JPY of 12/31 and 01/04/11 for a total loss of $1717. exit on counter trend set to true. This sets my account at a negative that started trading on 11/30/2010. The sad part is…these 2 losses are the only losses over that period of time.
Hi Andrea I still am unable to understand why I am not getting the results as published for the last 3 months of appx 40% increase on the account.’
I opened my account on 11 Oct. I have the account set up with all of the recommended settings etc, to date it has had 5 max DDs and the account is appx MINUS (-) 40% of original balance.
these results certainly do not match the live account !!!! Andreas can you or anyone tellme why ????
Hi John
I have purchased Crescendo almost 2 months ago and I did not go live yet because I was not able to replicate the amazing backtesting results of Andrea using Dukascopy data with 99% modeling quality.
I’m still waiting Andrea to publish those backtesting statements to compare the results, but I’m still waiting…
if I can not have at least nice results on my backtesting with tick data and will not go live.
Andrea, can you please post you backtesting results of V1.3?
Andrea,
I can see you have a few of the large drawdown trades open on your live account, that I have. What is your exit strategy for these, or do we just leave them going?
ta, Mike.
My strategy is always the same since almost a year now. And that lean me to about 180% profits
Hi Anreas My account has now gone further into the red since the entry above this one written on January 5th, the balance now stands at MINUS -56% and has had a further 2 Max DD’s that makes 6 max dd’s for so far.
I have written to you Andreas, support at Crescendo and also Mark McRea to see if there is anyone out there that might have some advice as to why I am not seeing the results like the live account , without any replies or acknowledgements regarding my messages etc. from anyone,
As my account is set up using the recommended inputs etc I have to conclude that this is going the way of other EA’s , down the drain !!!
An acknowledgement of this message and an answer would be appreciated .
Sincerely
John
Hi Andrea, just looking at the live statement above it says no open orders but the botoom part of the statement lists 4 or 5 ? open positions- all in loss at present- thesepositions are still open on my account- is this correct or should they be closed ? – in particular short trade gbpjpy sold at 125.749 still open with loss of 400 pips- should forex crescendo have closed these losing trades ? Please advise.
Regards, James Chenoweth.
Hi James,
In the meantime GBPUSD did 2.5% from the beginning of the year… not much but the first half of January is usually quite flat.
the positions will be all closed when the total value of them will be the target_profit value. This is the strategy.
In my live account I have 5 short GBPJPY positions and I’ll let them do their job
Andrea, my Acc just closed 30% loss! Did yours??? Sad.
+140$ this month on closed positions and -1577$ at this moment on open positions ? Isn’t this a little bit disturbing ?
That’s the price for trading during holiday period
Why is that your Acc doesnt close yet but mine already closed?
30% of my live account has just been destroyed by Crescendo, thanks in part to the CPI news. In 8 years of trading, I’ve never lost anything like that.
All standard settings, very low lot size, 1% risk, v1.3 (with close-on-counter set to false, since that wiped out a big chunk when I first upgraded from 1.0 to 1.3).
Andrea, I sent you an email about the big drawdown last week.
All short trades from late December on both pairs.
My three month trial has proved to be very expensive, that Leo rubbish didn’t help either.
Not at all impressed
It started off quite well with version 1.
Hi Steve,
more than to CPI news, this is due to the trades opened during the holiday period. That’s why I strongly suggested to stop trading for one month, from mid December to mid January.
This is true for Crescendo but for many EAs and it’s true in general for trading. The same applies to August.
Thanks for the reply Andrea. I seem to recall you said you’d be leaving the EA to run, on your live account, with close-on-trend off, over the holiday period – so I simply did same. The EA was profitable with closed trades just after Christmas.
I understand the potential volatility due to low volumes, but all we saw was a a relatively tight range on cable, until break-out on the 12th. The price action that we’ve seen over the last couple of weeks isn’t that much different to what we saw in September.
Crescendo is now switched off while my trading account goes back to manual for recovery.
What do I do next? v1.4 or no more EA trading? Decisions, decisions, but I am very much disinclined to let any EA trade my account again.
You’re right Steve.
I let it run but for two reasons: first because I never stopped it running (not even in August) and I won’t ever stop it until I decide to close it. That’s because it’s the OFFICIAL live account
Second, my margin is much larger than the average Crescendo account, so I can stand very large DD without difficulties. Actually a 3K DD is less than 14% of my equity.
The problem is not volatility… the problem is that with low volumes you can have trends without any retracement for weeks and that is what can kill any strategy.
Can’t help you with your decision. It depends on you.
30% DD is 30% DD regardless of the balance of the account. The pitch for v1 suggested the 30% was a safety net which the EA had never come close to hitting. When v1.3 was released you stated: “…the maximum draw down from open orders has been 8.75%… far away from our initial 30% safety net.”
I think you’re a good bloke, Andrea, and mean not to disparage you or your good work. However, whichever way you look at it, Crescendo has failed, for me and others it would seem; (in my 3 months of testing) it hasn’t come close to living up to the performance figures suggested in the promotional material. I don’t see that low volume trends had anything to do with it – we were range-bound; the high-volume breakout that ensued is what seemed to kill us.
Had I switched the EA off before Christmas I would have had opened trades that I’d either have had to close (at a loss) manually, or leave to (likely) eventually close at a loss when the EA resumed.
There is clearly some potential in the EA and I’m loathed to give up on it or you. Some positive input on improvements, that could be made to avoid such DD in future versions, would be more welcome than suggestions of post-Christmas irrational price action that caused the EA not work properly.
Today my account imploaded with a huge loss. And it doesn’t sound like it’s only me….
Andrea
I am finding it impossible to do any long range testing and reach a decision to go live due to the rapid updates and getting some of the versions to perform. An answer to a few questions would be helpful.
1. Are the new versions applied to your live account..If so when?..If not why? In other words how was that performance achieved?
2, What criteria would you use to evaluate demo results and decide to go live?
3. If new versions have not been applied to the live account is the live version available to us? My objective is to make money not spend my time testing new versions.
Hi Jeff,
I always use the latest version on my personal live account.
But I’m about to start a new live account for version 1.4 also.
I usually don’t use demo account as I prefer to have a small live account with very low lots. So I usually skip the demo phase but that is because I trust my things
As soon as I’ll have version 1.4 applied to a live account by itself I’ll send a link to everyone so you can follow its performances and decide if it’s the case to switch to the new version or not.
Andrea,
For the benefit of all of those who are suffering a big draw down, do you have some advice to speed up the closing of basket of trades.
My GJ basket of trades started at 04/01/11, with currently 6 trades open. Break even point at 129.474. For GU I have 8 trades open, with break even at 1.58389. The problem is that I don’t see GJ or GU coming down to break even point in the short term. All this time Crescendo is in limbo — as we can’t close out any trades.
Is it a good idea to manually open a short at a local maximum, with say 4 times the normal lot size, in order to bring the break even point up? Or do you see another way of getting out?
hello Andrea why have you done a deposit in the live account ? you will increase the lot size?
Not we didn’t. It’s Alpari UK that “converted” our profits into deposits cutting history before June 29th 2010… don’t know why sincerely. Waiting for an answer from them!
I’m very very disappointed about that.
Japan falls apart and gets washed away and yet the currency strengthens against the GBP.
The live account opened a trade on 28 Dec 2010 finally closed all 11 trades to make a profit, albeit only $40.00. That is a lot better than giving the market over $6K that it was in draw down at one stage.
My own account has been teasing me for weeks now. I know Andrea says to be patient. As with my previous post the DD of 30% is not quite enough in the beginning. 60% might be the better option.
I don’t think I will ever understand why the market moves the way it does but Crescendo appears too.
Trust in Crescendo with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.
Hi Garry,
Same experience with me, closed 11 trades with small profit (including swaps). I agree with your 60% but I could manage because I use hedging and opened and closed buy trades in profit the last 70 days.
You’re right guys.
But the best things would have been to not trade during that periods. That way the 30% DD should be enough.
The new version will cover that by stopping trading during low volumes periods (August and mid-Dec to mid-Jan). Unfortunately those periods are crazy and can create problems lasting “months”.
If you can… hedging is another nice solution
Well done FrankB.
I don’t know what happened today but my account was 70% wiped out due to massive drop in GBP/JPY. Very disappointed.